Ladies and Gentlemen. Do you know when you are at the top of the world? When a jerk posts desperately to your blog calling you names. That shows he is jealous of you, is a coward, a big one if he is anonymous, and that he is scum.

I have been at the receiving end of this joyous qualification.

You A*, what did you think, it was hard to trace you and report you to Qualcomm? They are quite happy to hear about spammers. You do know there is a law against people like you now. If you have something relevant to say, say it.

Varadhan and I have opposing views and we come out with our names.

You lowlife, if you could not beat me throughout life, maybe you should die and see if you are reborn any better....

Unfortunately you have a few things confused. The Brahmins and the BJP and RSS cannot be separated, for the simple reason that most of these pests are Brahmins. I know this first hand, as there is a prominent Brahmin in Coimbatore who helps these people and the ABVP. He is joined, hand in glove by the others.

Pseudosecularism is rampant among brahmins. On one hand they help, moot and support RSS, VHP, BJP, ABVP and all these useless parties which don't have a principle, other than being "Hindu" replicas of fanatic parties that infest other religions.

So there is no way can you deem the activities of these people separate from the Brahmins. This is where the pseudosecularism comes in, with Brahmins silently acting alongside these parties and on the other hand shouting hoarse that they don't subscribe to these opinions. These people, my friend Varadhan, form a majority of our brahmin society. Let's not close our eyes shut to their activities.

Secondly, comparision should never be made to people who indulge in activities lower to us ethically. That way your comparision with Jaya, her party etc. are not going to help the Brahmins at all.

Compare the Brahmins to the Tibetans who protest non - violently and will come out one day as the better among the people they are fighting against.

That is why I keep insisting on the fact that our society, the brahministic clan needs cleansing. Militancy, adopted from other groups will not do good to people sworn into peace, peace loving and services to God.

That way I am very different from Karunanidhi, and the Brahmins who vote for him despite the illtreatment he meted out to them!

Unbelievable!!!!!

 

 

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Sorry not interested in such cowardly games. If you are so afraid of revealing your fucking name, you are as good as the false Sanyasis in India.

And Shenoy is a fool. Because the Supreme Court thinks the Mutt is not a public trust it is okay for the Acharyas to eat and burp public money and still call themselves religious leaders?

How many Hindus think so?

 

Varadhan,

Sorry if I misunderstood you earlier, but your most recent post makes me think at some level you don't want anything much different. Only recently, I was telling someone how Puttapurthi has covered up things in the past, and if given what has happened to Sankaracharya, someone rakes up that case, and brings the murderer to book, it would indeed be a great revolution!

That is the reason why I think this case is a great launching board. The Kanchi Mutt has a great tradition. No one is denying that. Now that is being questioned by the fact that the leader appears to be a murderer. Do you think covering it up is the best way to go?

I am not denying or closing my eyes to Laloo, Jayalalitha, Karunanidhi, and other criminals. But we all need a starting point. Just because the Laloos of India walk free, should we justify and claim every criminal walk free?

Politicians may have many arrest evading tactics and tricks in their bag. The belief is that if the Acharya was forewarned he would have used one or many of them. Imagine how nasty the whole incident would have become.

The BJP, RSS and VHP realizing their total lack of popularity would have made sit in dharnas in front of the ashram. Karunanidhi would have been crying foul on the other end and there would be all this nonsense happening.

That is the one thing I appreciate about Jaya. And you have to accept Cho Ramaswamy's perception as well. She would have seen the evidence fit to make the arrest. Now, the fact that she would, in an ideal world gain political mileage is not overlooked. She would do it. And nothing can be done about it.

This arrest will serve as a launching pad to serve as a warning to all those politicians out there. No one is indeed above the law. With the right political backing, any criminal can be brought to book, or atleast arrested and exposed.

Why do you think other religious leaders opposed the arrests? Fear. Instigating religious violence, wringing out conversions and all other kinds of criminal acts are not new to these minority religious leaders. Now, it is their fear that if the Hindu in the highest religious position can be imprisoned, what would happen of petty religious criminals like themselves.

What India needs is separation of politics from relgion. This needs dare. Being in Coimbatore, having been a victim, albeit indirectly of the bombs, I know how bad it is. Karunanidhi was afraid of muslim repurcussions and did nothing. The arrests had to be done via Jayalalitha's government.

I think this case is a revolutionary incident of sorts, and other chief ministers can learn a lesson or two from it. The BJP, Shiv Sena and RSS will also realize that they don't enjoy much favor atleast in TN. This should wake up all the fanatic people in the other states.

Finally, back to Kanchi, I would say the mutt has only this method to flush out the system. This is a golden opportunity to kick the current acharya from his seat (irrespective of his conviction, there are other reasons to get him out of there), to bring out their books into the open, and come up with good explanation of how their system works.

Even God and Adi Sankaracharya would have liked it this way...

 

This is like the Scott Peterson case.

The prosecution does not have an eye witness. But it has all the circumstantial evidence. The writing is on the wall, as far as the prosecution is concerned.

It is not that the defense needs to only rebutt the prosecution arguments, but also provide an alternate possibility for murder.

How is that going to be addressed?

Let's see. Let's look at the world through the Murali Manohar Joshi - scope:

Jayalalitha lost in the recent Lok Sabha elections. The acharya on the 15th page of a Tamil paper that MMJ reads, says its because of her conceit. So Jaya plots and conspires, has Sankararaman killed and then waits for two months and then on Diwali decides achu must go!

Here is the world through the anti - Dravidian sentiment:

Finally, after all these years of constant bickering Karunanidhi snapped, and in senility decided to end it with the Brahmins once and for all. So he plots and conspires (or huffs and puffs) and here we are... Given that he changes his statement once every week, we might attribute bipolar disorder...

Here is the VHP view, by far the most hilarious...

Sonia Gandhi is a woman with a vision. She sleeps with the PM's son, gets married to him, settles down in India, all with the sole aim of propoganding Christianity. Boy, is she one tireless monk. Then she decides the right place and time to start are the Acharya. She not only plots and conspires and does the murder, she also somehow entices Jayalalitha and the TN police to arrest the acharya on diwali, in the tradition of the elephant that lodges soil on its own back...

Here is yet another Bollywood scrip...

A bunch of Brahmins decide to save the Acharya from humiliation. So, to help their leader they do the murders, but now having done the noble deed are torn between accepting guilt and letting him have it!

Which one of these hilarious possibilities is the defense going to suggest? Never mind what you will say in court. There is such a thing as people's court. People like me want the acharya-backers to provide with a credible theory for the murder and the likey suspect. Any answers?

 

Hmm. Let's see. Me and my Co. did not decide. The post says "Criminal", not Sankaracharya.

My very first post also says I will wait for the evidence.

So, I am not the one groping for reasons. I am the one trying to rebutt brahministic cover - up attempts, one that only another Brahmin can do!

The anti - sense argument to "cover up of evidence" which is "creation of evidence" was also brought up on this blog. Interesting that Varadhan choses to ignore that...

Also, just like I address your concerns, Pathma is a person who posted on this blog. It is her belief that he is a criminal, and she expressed her concern, and I need to address it. That doesn't make us a cabal!

That said, let's see, I run a mutt.  Two young people die within weeks of each other. Then there is an attempt on the murder of one of the people working for me. Later, a guy who protested a lot of things I did, and openly threatened to expose me turns up dead.....

Trying to brand me an innocent person would be an extreme example of celestial coincidences.

What makes you think this guy is innocent? The clandestine cover up of mutt funds? The death of a person who tried to expose it? His unexplained disappearance 10 years ago? I am sorry, people in a public position of this gravity do not and cannot have a private rendezvous and expect people to leave them alone, especially when they start becoming murder suspects?

What else makes you think he is innocent? His undying greed for political PR? His television and press appearances? This acharya is no sanyasi. He is a seasoned politician.

Why do you think not many in TN care to protest or cry, oh! other than the Brahmins?

I like Hinduism. I think Brahmins are okay. I want to protect my religion. That is why I want to see that this guy be tried for the accusations properly and the case rounded up. I am never one to suddenly bend over the back and take it to protect one of my "kind". Has our brahmin ego become so blinding we think our religious head has become above the law?

Before playing with any other thing, let's understand a person is dead. Lets not become numb to that fact.

Hmm. Let's see. Me and my Co. did not decide. The post says "Criminal", not Sankaracharya.

My very first post also says I will wait for the evidence.

So, I am not the one groping for reasons. I am the one trying to rebutt brahministic cover - up attempts, one that only another Brahmin can do!

The anti - sense argument to "cover up of evidence" which is "creation of evidence" was also brought up on this blog. Interesting that Varadhan choses to ignore that...

Also, just like I address your concerns, Pathma is a person who posted on this blog. It is her belief that he is a criminal, and she expressed her concern, and I need to address it. That doesn't make us a cabal!

That said, let's see, I run a mutt.  Two young people die within weeks of each other. Then there is an attempt on the murder of one of the people working for me. Later, a guy who protested a lot of things I did, and openly threatened to expose me turns up dead.....

Trying to brand me an innocent person would be an extreme example of celestial coincidences.

What makes you think this guy is innocent? The clandestine cover up of mutt funds? The death of a person who tried to expose it? His unexplained disappearance 10 years ago? I am sorry, people in a public position of this gravity do not and cannot have a private rendezvous and expect people to leave them alone, especially when they start becoming murder suspects?

What else makes you think he is innocent? His undying greed for political PR? His television and press appearances? This acharya is no sanyasi. He is a seasoned politician.

Why do you think not many in TN care to protest or cry, oh! other than the Brahmins?

I like Hinduism. I think Brahmins are okay. I want to protect my religion. That is why I want to see that this guy be tried for the accusations properly and the case rounded up. I am never one to suddenly bend over the back and take it to protect one of my "kind". Has our brahmin ego become so blinding we think our religious head has become above the law?

Before playing with any other thing, let's understand a person is dead. Lets not become numb to that fact.

Thing is, they didn't even think an accusation was possible, leave alone arrests. Now with cases piling up, they are asking some previously unasked questions - why accuse the Acharya of more than one murder? Now? Well, now that the cat is out of the bag, (more like pouring cats and dogs...), the police want to give things their best shot.

The concern that my friend Pathma holds is true. Evidence will probably be covered up and the criminal will walk free, but enough holes are poked for people to reel in speculation.

Even if you think the seer wasn't doing the killings himself, how can you explain all these attempts and murders that make the mutt look more like Norman Bate's motel...?

This one from the Indian Express, the one that calls itself new...

Death of student at Kanchi mutt 19 years ago to the fore Tuesday November 23 2004 11:40 IST KASARGOD: The relatives of 21-year-old Kesavan Namboothiri, who allegedly died due to electrocution in the Kanchi mutt nineteen years ago, have postponed their decision to meet Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalithaa since they feel insecure to visit Tamil Nadu following the arrest of Kanchi seer Jayendra Saraswati. Narayanan Namboothiri, elder brother of the victim, told this website’s newspaper that instead he has sent fax messages to Jayalalithaa and State Chief Minister Oommen Chandy. He said he was awaiting their reply. The family, based in Kanhangad, is now pinning its hopes on the police report (Crime No. 1172 85MS174) registered at the Sivakanchi police station which stated that there was suspicion over the death. The victim’s father Edamanaillath Krishnan Namboothiri believes strongly that the death of his son was not due to electrocution as alleged by the mutt authorities. ‘‘Nothing would take place in the mutt without the consent of the mutt authorities,’’ he said. Though his son had died on October 1, 1985, he received a telegram from the Kanchi mutt on October 2 saying that his son was involved in an accident. Then a second telegram informed him that the mutt authorities were bringing home the body. The body of Kesavan Namboothiri, a second-year degree student of Sanskrit at the Kancheepuram Chandrasekhara College, was brought home by stuffing it in the dicky of a car with ice-pieces smeared over the body. There was a deep slash on the back of the victim’s head and blood was oozing from the mouth and from the private parts of the body. Besides, one of the thighs of the victim carried a burn scar, said Krishnan Namboothiri. According to him, those who had accompanied the body soon left the place though they had said that the postmortem report would be given to them. But the fact was that no postmortem was ever conducted, he said. According to the victim’s father, a letter he received from his son a few months before his death had said that the students of the college were agitated since they had not received the monthly stipend for three months. It was also curious that the body of Sankaran Namboothiri, a native of Ramanthali near Payyannur, who was a classmate of Kesavan Namboothri at the mutt, was found on a railway track a week after Kesavan Namboothiri’s death.